Welcome New Surface Pro

The E"V" is the new standard which Microsoft is trying to match. The Surface 5 would be the next generation and would have to be, imo, the opening for a whole new ballgame. It might be fun to speculate on the particulars of what that might be. It could also be a vision for the groups next project.

To be honest - the two big things that I’m impressed by for the moment are:

  • U Series 7th Gen as apposed to Y. They made that decision presumably based on benchmarking/testing.
  • Battery life of 13 hours (we’ll see if that holds up to scrutiny).

Cost aside that interests me. Also having different colours of keyboards. That makes me happy.

No regrets - mainly because MS have been lazy on the last two and shoddy with the battery - so they lost my vote.

In a few years we’ll see where things are and maybe I’ll go back, maybe I wont.
But that U series with that proposed battery life…mmmm. Yummy.

Real world testing will be very interesting.

If you read the fine print on the machines, all the surface machines excepting the 1 TB with a Core i7 use a slower SSD , which factors into performance. I just don’t understand how they could squeeze 13 hours out of a smaller battery with a more power hungry processor and a less efficient SSD and active cooling, the numbers just don’t add up.

Ah you’re right. Good catch. I somehow glossed over the Generation 1 part on the spec list lol

Yes. The Midwest, more specifically.

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Battery capacity:

Device Manager:





Benchmarks:



Photo gallery:

Short observations:

+49 Whr rated battery capacity! (Ignore the rated capacity in my screencap. It is erroneous since it is a preproduction model. The actual charged capacity shown reflects the correct rating. Lisa Gade, in her first look video below, confirmed this 49 Whr rated capacity.)
+The i5 model is 5 percent faster than the i7 model Surface Pro 4 and 20 percent faster than the i5 model Surface Pro 4!
+Even though the i5 model is completely fanless, I experienced no throttling even after dozens of consecutive benchmark runs!
+Subjectively, it feels much more solid in build and evenly distributed in weight than the Surface Pro 4!

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Wish we still had a Microsoft store in Omaha. The closest option for me now is Mineapolis.

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Don’t feel alone, there is a bunch of people who felt pissed off on no-birthday days :disappointed:
When the V arrives they will all be pissed on (poor english, but logic somewhere) :astonished:.

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If you pulled all that from the MS shop floor demo unit… YES! YOU LEGEND!!!

Like. A. Boss.

Sadly they don’t have demo units in the UK yet (that I’m aware of?)

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This article mentions the Instant-On feature: “The Surface Pro now behaves like a tablet. The power button instantly turns the display on with no visible booting or loading. It’s an impressive experience.”

Is this instant-on feature is a confirmed reality with the new Surface Pro?

Does the Eve V support also reliable and fast Instant-On?

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@Konstantinos, thanks for making this comparison table for us. It will help us make an informed purchase decision. Could you update the table with some updated information:

  1. Microsoft Surface Pro battery capacity is 49Wh. (According to the very reliable Lisa Gade from MobileTechReview, see here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g4xbZOhNBM )

  2. Now that the Eve V keyboard is developed, could you include the complete physical dimensions and weight of the Eve V including keyboard cover for us.

Thanks.

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Yep it is! Modern standby. Basically V behaves like your smartphone would with screen off.

Below is the link to the video demonstrating it.

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Ok so its not instant on…but its pretty dam quick.


Login screen in 13 seconds


Screen on in .5 seconds.

Good enough for me…but instant is kind of awesome. Maybe available after some tweaking and OS updates?

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I did. They gladly accommodated me. :smiley: The only downside was I was unable to run HWiNFO, Geekbench, or 3DMark since all those require admin permissions, which corporate strictly disallows customers from having at anytime.

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I think MS has it 0.5 sec too. As it takes time for backlight to activate:)

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I think the camera used for windows hello is a different camera than used for video and photos. At least it is on the SP4.

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Is it possible to use the hello camera to improve photos? Imagine if both cameras took a shot and it’d merge the photos. Would be cool to see the results.

Yeah. I think it could be improved further with driver/firmware updates. My Dell Venue Pro 8 had an issue where sometimes it would take 5-10 seconds or more to turn on the screen, and eventually, I don’t know if through firmware (I keep all my devices very up to date with firmware, BIOS, etc.) or through OS updates, I haven’t had that issue in years now.

FYI: Here’s some tech talk about Windows hello and its hardware requirements/recommendations.

Surface Pro has an infrared camera :camera: to aid in facial :person_with_blond_hair:recognition (info grabbed from @Hifihedgehog’s excellent pictures).

And general hardware design guides for Windows 10 by going down to the roots of webpage tree :deciduous_tree::

Just in case, if anyone is interested in the nitty-gritty of device design for Windows 10 :nerd:, enjoy!

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i like how the new surface pro kickstand can go down to a 10 degrees angle.i helps a lot if you want to draw

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