Tell us what you think about smartphones

#25

What smartphone are you using now?
Fairphone 2

What are the top 3 things you would never sacrifice on a smartphone?
Replaceable battery
Long lasting battery (more than 2 days)
Damaged screen can easily be replaced

If you can choose to sacrifice 3 things on your smartphone to make it cheaper, what are they?
NFC
QI charging
High end camera

There are already so many brands with many great products in the industry, is there still a unique value or innovation that Eve & the community could bring to smartphones?
Modular phone: basic version has just standard level modules for screen, camera, network. Then you can buy better modules, if you like.

Describe the next smartphone you want to buy (it can already be on the market, or maybe you want Eve to make it)
I want to keep my smartphone for 4-5 years and Android updates should be available all lifetime.

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#26

+1 one for modularity.

I’d love to see someone give something like Project Ara another go.

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#27

Current Phone:
Samsung Notes & Xiaomi Mi Mix.

Top 3 Things
Dual Sim cards
Battery life - I need a phone at least last a whole day, I charge my phones every night.
Stylus - With inbuilt slot like Samsung

Sacrifice
NFC
QI Charge
Front Camera
Fingerprint reader
Loudspeaker - I always use bluetooth earpiece

For me the ultimate phone would be one with a combination of both of my current phones the beauty of the Mix with an inbuilt stylus like the Note.

I love the size of both and it means I don’t need to carry around a tablet as much for business meetings.

#28
  • What smartphone are you using now?
    iPhone SE 32 GB

  • What are the top 3 things you would never sacrifice on a smartphone?
    small (4") size (a phone that does not comfortably fit in just any pocket is neither “mobile” nor particularly “smart”), battery life, dual SIM (I admit my iPhone was some sort of compromise :sweat_smile:)

  • If you can choose to sacrifice 3 things on your smartphone to make it cheaper, what are they?
    NFC (don’t even know whether my phone has it, got no use for it anyways), fancy cover (metal unibody…), super-high screen resolution

  • There are already so many brands with many great products in the industry, is there still a unique value or innovation that Eve & the community could bring to smartphones?
    When trying to find a replacement for my old Lumia 532, I noticed that small 4" phones have nearly died out, the ones available are mostly completely low-end devices. On the other hand, a number of people seem to forget their dislike for Apple when they see my phone and remember how small and handy such a thing can be. There might be a rewarding niche here.

  • Describe the next smartphone you want to buy (it can already be on the market, or maybe you want Eve to make it)
    The next phone I’d like to buy (hopefully not for years) is actually quite similar to my current iPhone SE (I’ll spare you the details as they can easily be looked up), apart from a few things:

  • USB connector (seriously, why the heck would you not use a de-facto industry standard?)

  • dual SIM (more would be an additional bonus - it’s a very useful asset as I travel quite a bit, like to keep control over who I’m available for and have found the possibility to switch networks for stability’s or cost’s sake any time quite handy. - crying tears I’ve sacrificed this for the sake of a comfortable size in my current phone - bigger size would be a dealbreaker for me)

  • microSD slot

  • more battery life and replaceable battery (by which I mean easily replacable - open cover, switch batteries, close cover)

  • better camera - I’d be particularly interested in an implementation of a system I’ve read about a few months ago essentially using the concept of a periscope to win space for optical zoom (I have a fear it might be patented though :wink: )

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#29

Using Motorola G6 plus

never sacrifice - day long plus battery

sacrifice - phablet size screen - feel up to 6" most - as fits in all sorts of pockets

In terms of other questions feel a crowded market would make life difficult esp with phones like this en route

https://www.lenovo.com/gb/en/phones/moto/moto-g-series/motog7-power/p/PMIPMBU20M3

#30

-What smartphone are you using now?
LG G6. Samsung S10 is on it’s way.

-What are the top 3 things you would never sacrifice on a smartphone?
Multi-lens camera (ultra-wide mandatory), battery life, minimal bezels, ability to work on CDMA based carriers. I’d have a very hard time giving up removable storage because the cost of a phone with 512mb+ is insane.

-If you can choose to sacrifice 3 things on your smartphone to make it cheaper, what are they?
Most powerful processor, fingerprint sensor, front camera (I NEVER use it). I might be able to be convinced to give up the headphone jack for more battery.

-There are already so many brands with many great products in the industry, is there still a unique value or innovation that Eve & the community could bring to smartphones?
New phone for the Google Fi network. Windows if that comes back to life. Flagship phone in a smaller package. Rugged option.

-Describe the next smartphone you want to buy (it can already be on the market, or maybe you want Eve to make it)
Size somewhere in the neighborhood of the Samsung 10e/10 and iPhone X/XS, IP68 or Ruggedized design, triple lens camera (Wide/Normal/Tele) with great night performance and fast auto focus or something like the Nokia 9 but with variable focal length, decent processor (power efficiency is more important than computing power) and go heavy on RAM, 128GB storage, removable storage, 2 day battery life or removable battery, case material that supports use in cold weather (I mean cold- I want my phone to work well down to 0F), USB C, headphone jack, speaker(s) that works well (doesn’t need to be amazing), no selfie camera, good screen (good color and the ability to see it outside are more important than resolution) with minimal bezels, ability to run Android and Windows (if iOS was possible I’d say do it), I don’t care about WiFi 6 or 5G right now, newest BT would be good tho, works with every carrier system, Google Fi certified, MODULAR and user serviceable.

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#31

I agree with this post strongly. I want a phone the size of OnePlus X with killer battery life and awesome camera. Screen shouldn’t suck, gotta be LED, and bezels gotta be near as good as Samsung’s 10e. Never use front facing cam, finger print is nice and I’d miss it tbh if excluded, nfc is debatable in terms of necessity.

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#32

Using Pixel XL and iPhone 5s.

Never sacrifice: front bezel design, battery, speed

Would sacrifice: if a non SD chip can do similar work I’m ok with that. Speakers (slightly), and thickness (slightly)

If Eve can do it cheaper, less middlemen, with similar specs and design, I’m game

I thought the Nexus 4 was a fantastic phone. Same with the pixel and nexus 6p. Pure unaltered experience. No risk of bloatware, goofy Samsung skin, reasonable price (nexus 4 for sure). And no risk of spyware. If Eve can source a good display, solid RAM and chip, I’d be game. It can be done - it’s just that Samsung and apple know people will pay lots for the name

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#33
  • What smartphone are you using now?

Oneplus 6

*What are the top 3 things you would never sacrifice on a smartphone?

Speed, battery life and timely updates

  • If you can choose to sacrifice 3 things on your smartphone to make it cheaper, what are they?

build quality, water resistance, screen resolution of 400+ ppi

  • There are already so many brands with many great products in the industry, is there still a unique value or innovation that Eve & the community could bring to smartphones?

there are no more flagships (or premium mid-tier) under 6", they all look kind of the same and everybody seems to think users love the shit they throw over android. Kudos for apple for being the only one selling a flagship smaller than 6" and keeping a clean software (although it’s ridiculously expensive).

  • Describe the next smartphone you want to buy (it can already be on the market, or maybe you want Eve to make it)
  • a mid range snapdragon without all the bells and whistles

  • 1080p screen that’s around 5" - 5.5" so it fits in one hand and doesn’t consume battery like chrome does ram

  • Good camera (don’t care how many sensors, just want a good output)

  • Usb-pd support so I can use the fast chargers I already have

  • NO NOTCH!!! Just put symmetrical bezels around the screen (preferably with stereo front facing speakers like HTC used to do)

  • A fingerprint reader that is (on order of preference) 1: under the screen, 2: side mounted, 3: centralized on the back

  • Sturdy build, no glass on the back, something that looks like batman would use

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#36

So far none of the phones I or my relatives have owned had any problems with that. Winters here get down to -25C or -13F. That includes glass, metal, plastic… they all work just fine.

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#37

In the average use case where the phone is spending most of it’s time in a pocket or you are indoors more than outdoors, sure, they all work fine. That’s not my experience with extended outdoor use though.

We use phones and tablets for outdoor ticket sales and there is a noticable difference, especially with iPhones. The glass cased models last hours longer. Over the years we would see longer battery life with Android phones that had plastic bodies. I’ve taken my iPad Mini 3 out to do GPS mapping when it’s 45F and raining. It shuts off in half the time it normally lasts in warmer/dryer temps. I used my LG G6 (glass case) the other day in 15F (plus wind chill) on two 8 minute chairlift rides and watched the battery drain at more than twice it’s normal rate. That’s better than my G5 (metal) did but worse than my G3 (plastic) did in the cold.

In all of those scenarios the devices will show that still has significant battery life once you get them warmed up and powered back on. Obviously, case material isn’t the only factor but it has been a common denominators in my uses.

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#38

I do use them outdoors. Well, as much as you can use a phone without freezing off your fingers, that is. Maybe it’s a crapple thing then, lol

If your problem is battery life in cold environmens, what you’re looking for is thermal insulation. That will help the battery stay warm, but at the same time it’s a performance killer.

#39

Samsung 7 Edge
Would not sacrifice:
1.Synced Email, Calendar and Contacts thru Google and GMail
2.Not tied to any particular service provider (unblocked?)
3.Room for at least 128GB SD card (preferably 256 if available)
Would sacrifice:
1.Phone manufacturer Bloatware!
2.4K Camera
3.Don’t have anything else worth considering
I am not sure about bringing value to the market. If they seamlessly intergrate with other Eve products, that would be a plus. I really don’t know much tech about phones. I’ve had good luck with Samsung Products like our phones and tablet, bad luck with LG phones. Honestly, I buy whatever of the better known brand name phones (or a name I’ve had good fortune with) I can afford that has good value for the features you get. My son has a Motorola Z Droid and he’s pretty happy with it, but he has limited use of it, but it hasn’t had any problems. I understand why most phones are purchased with phone service contracts, I have to buy them that way, as plopping down $700-$900 for each phone is pretty pricey with 3 of us in this house. But I hate the fact that they have already sold or otherwise let my phone numbers, whenever we had to get a new line,out to telemarketers and robocallers before I even get out of the door.

I would like to get:
1.Android phone which allows me to get my google apps and store apps.
2.It would be 32gb with options for larger sizes as people may want
3.Front and back cameras with decent (not fancy) capability and shake-proof pics and video recording for my seizures and tremors.
4.Sd card at least 128gb on up (LG I think goes up to 1TB capability though no one makes those SD’s yet).
5.Good reception, though maybe that is only a function of the phone service provider?
6.No curved edge (wish I hadn’t got that version, but the regular edge Samsung wasn’t on sale!)
7.Either make a deal with Otterbox or develop similar strength cases. Safety at least for 2 meter drop on concrete. (I’ve had Ottorboxes dropped 7 feet on concrete floor with no damage to the phone) and I heard that Otterbox claims you can run over them with a Ford Quad Cab truck without damage, not sure if that’s true, but they are hella strong!
8.USB-C charging port
9.usual accessories like cable and wall charger with option to buy a car charger, which would have to be developed, but since we have a wall charger that’s probably not an issue.
10.Bluetooth

We have only 2 more payments on 2 of our 3 phones and then we will own them. Since they work fine, I doubt my wife will want to spend money on new phones so I’m in no rush. I would like to see Eve make one, but I think there are other things to work on first which you already have started planning for. I think its something to watch the market and see how things go. The Chinese already are in Brazil and South Africa and South Korea has a large percentage of its population owning phones. I think this is a tough market to get into unless you make something like a hybrid tablet-smartphone that will plug into your mini-PC or V. I don’t know the feasibility of this, I’m not a marketing person, just a number cruncher!

Personally, I think it benefits Eve to stick first with products that can be integrated with existing products or don’t take much development time and money. We have the dock, thoughts of the mini PC, possible tablets, these are items that can work well together which I believe makes them easier to sell under our one brand name and it’s all about the brand. Make great products which work together, have value, no junk included, will be recognizable when you see the name “Eve.”

I have no idea what I am saying. :laughing::smiley::laughing:

#40
  • What smartphone are you using now?

iPhone SE, Essential Phone

  • What are the top 3 things you would never sacrifice on a smartphone?

Battery life, screen resolution & ppi, Aesthetics (no-notch design, no camera bump)

  • If you can choose to sacrifice 3 things on your smartphone to make it cheaper, what are they?

Weight, thickness, screen-to-body ratio

  • There are already so many brands with many great products in the industry, is there still a unique value or innovation that Eve & the community could bring to smartphones?

The manufacturers keep downsizing the form factors , making phones thinner and lighter with the trade-offs against battery life, durability, functionality and aesthetics.
It ends up ruining user experience.

The big names are now charging us more and more with adding new features that no one ask for, like Animoji, notches, excessive camera lens, etc.

I just want an affordable smartphone without compromises essential features.

  • Describe the next smartphone you want to buy (it can already be on the market, or maybe you want Eve to make it)

A smartphone that runs all day long, without ugly notches, fairly priced, have no bloatwares, no data breaches.
I believe Eve is capable of making it happen.

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#41
  • What smartphone are you using now?
    oneplus 6T
  • What are the top 3 things you would never sacrifice on a smartphone?
    Battery life, light OS (similar to stock android), fingerprint sensor
  • If you can choose to sacrifice 3 things on your smartphone to make it cheaper, what are they?
    smaller panel size, some camera performance, duel sim
  • There are already so many brands with many great products in the industry, is there still a unique value or innovation that Eve & the community could bring to smartphones?
    eve likely doesn’t have the resources to really innovate but bringing a smaller panel size with modern specs even if it needs to be slightly thicker could be convincing
  • Describe the next smartphone you want to buy (it can already be on the market, or maybe you want Eve to make it)
    snapdragon 855, 6-8 gb of ram, capacitive finger sensor (to lower price, in display is not worth it), 3,700 mAh battery min., 5.5-6 inch screen, qi wireless charging, close to stock android, support for at least 3 years.
#42

Welcome HiTechElf! You make many excellent points which I had forgotten about. I actually don’t like the very lightweight phones as I have brain injury problems which partially effect my grip. I was checking out a super-light phone my friend got (of course I don’t recall the name) and I kept bouncing around in my hand cause it was difficult for me to grasp, instead just shooting out of my hands. Like Elf, I would give up some size and screen to overall size ratio. And I frankly take a lot of video and still pics with my Samsung phone and post to Instagram or Facebook and they are just fine for that. I guess if someone was looking for high quality, why not just buy a very good digital camera instead? But great points again HiTechElf.

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#43

Welcome aboard Rabid_Cow!

#44
  • What smartphone are you using now?
    Samsung Galaxy S10 plus

  • What are the top 3 things you would never sacrifice on a smartphone?
    Camera, Battery life, Performance

  • If you can choose to sacrifice 3 things on your smartphone to make it cheaper, what are they?
    Weight, Reverse Wireless Charging, Expandable Storage

  • There are already so many brands with many great products in the industry, is there still a unique value or innovation that Eve & the community could bring to smartphones?
    Removable battery. Not just for emergencies, but also to give longevity

  • Describe the next smartphone you want to buy (it can already be on the market, or maybe you want Eve to make it)

Dream phone:
Samsung Galaxy S10 plus display, dual speakers, size, build quality, headphone jack
Oneplus UI
Razer screen refresh rate (120 hz)
iPhone camera software
P30 Pro camera hardware and battery life
Removable battery

Realistic eve phone
Poco F1 with a removable battery
Keep it simple with last years flagship snapdragon processor, 6gb ram, plastic build (for durability) 1080p screen, rear capacitive fingerprint sensor, 4k mAh battery, Android one (or license Oxygen OS from Oneplus if possible) and go with single cameras but optimise the gcam app. Overall though, the selling point will be a price tag around 200 usd

#45

Having said all that, on reflection the problem is huge competition and the need for a new product every year to keep pace.

As such, not a wise move for eve imho

#46

Too many choice, rather go with a Smartwatch

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