As one might argue it is not the value that is lost, rather it’s the effort, endeavor or the concept that counts. And that can very well be true. For sure there has to be a reason behind every delay, and no one has only intention to find reasons to blame one else, Eve that is. But guys let’s be reasonable and pragmatic here. In the sort of anticipated time frame, i.e., Aug-Sept, think about it, it’s almost a year, by two months. And no matter how we’re here for the idea and the concept and all that let’s not lose focus from the pragmatic point of view, which, irrespectively how you call it, maybe contribution, maybe purchase, whatever, we (both sides actually) committed to an agreement of trade, that in one part was fulfilled about a year ago to the fullest from some of us, and while waiting patiently for the other part of the agreement to be delivered, that never happened for, that long.
And it’s not about devaluing the V, not even close to that. It’s mostly that a considerable amount feels that something in the process and the present situation is perhaps wrong. Every one for his personal reasons. Between them, the belief that we are way past the point of showing compassion for an unforeseen circumstance that was beyond our control. No matter what the actual reason is/was, it simply does cannot be ok right now, and no form of compensation can/should make up for that. Will Eve deliver at some point? Probably. Eventually soon we all hope. Will they be considered successful on their part of our agreement? We will see at that time, but personally, I feel no. Since part of that agreement was also temporal, and that had never been reached. Again, this has nothing to do with the value of the V per se.
For example this, that is mentioned often wrt the value of the components in relation to the competition, yes perhaps is true, by how much we simply cannot know, and even so, can approximate with difficulty if at all. Should Eve really decide to make up for that loss and even orders of magnitude more, then they could have sent us our V’s in, say 50 yrs time, where it would be considered not vintage but collectible and therefore valued several times more than today’s value? Does it make sense? No. does it really solve the problem? No. What I want to say by that. We considered so far and still do, that we in one way or another, own it. But we can’t have it.
Even though it is true, and I do agree with that, that the impression is given around the indiegogo campaign and was perhaps misleading into making us believing that many, if not most preparations and arrangements had happened already and so there was just the funding needed and essentially putting the components together, before the first devices could be shipped. Well, I’d argue, and being polite actually, that was not at all true. Think about this. Even taking all the issues and problems and unforeseen events and circumstances out of the picture, while considering that all went according to schedule on doing what was necessary to reach the point of delivery. Well, the story shows clearly, that still the delivery would be delayed by a great margin. It’s not hard to see, just go through the reports and progresses all those past months.
At the end of the day: does the discussion about values or arguing that all more or less is ok solve the problem? No. Is it being helpful in solving the problem? No, it creates pointless talks and unnecessary friction. Along these lines also the majority of most chats and discussions around here. Some of which, are simply out of topic, point, and unrelated. Some others, lazy iterations of more of the same (being questions, concerns, suggestions).
So, guys, we are sure, you are doing everything possible in your capacities in getting us the V’s, but due to where we are now, it’s important in this last (hopefully sprint), to just add some more magic than you have, do the impossible possible, and what else your brilliant team thinks necessary and reasonable, and get this out, not necessarily us, rather out, to the world, to the people, like, now… really now. Anywhere around the end of summer that most people are back from they’re relaxing vacations, would perhaps imply a considerable hit in those numbers waiting for it, and the interest in general, as simply V would become less relevant at that time (mostly for the public, not us necessarily). Fame and promotion and all that, are great. But they are great when they make sense, that is, they cannot continue to be great for long, without the thing they refer to. At some point, as very well our dear friend points out above, the words of greatness start turning in to words of distaste and loathing. Not by us. To us. It is not the first time this is mentioned here in the community.