Opinions on the HP Spectre X2 Vs Eve V


#1

I’m looking to get a V because I have a laptop but it’s really bad, old and slow. Looking at prices and specifications, I really like the V, but the HP spectre X2 has caught my eye.

Was wondering if anyone would like to voice their opinion on the computer compared to the V?

I’m a student and at the moment I can get a spectre X2 for £999 which is pretty decent considering it’s meant to be £1,499. It doesn’t have the same cooling system, the RAM is slightly lower at 8GB (there’s no configuration) but I do believe the CPU is better. I know it’ll come with bloatware which HP have had a problem with recently about installing stuff on the PC without permission that slows the computer down. But I could possibly find ways around that.

Opinions?


#2

I think the HP Spectre X2 is a great choice. Don’t worry about the bloatware, there is very little. The telemetrics program you speak of is easily removed, although it doesn’t affect speed as some have stated. My wife owns this computer. I like the built-in HP update software for drivers, bios, etc. Spectre has a fan, Eve does not, so yes it has a different processor and speed. What programs are you planning to use and what are the system requirements for them. Eve may be fast enough…

HP support is great. Eve support at this point is an unknown. I’m happy with my choice of the EVE because I got to provide input as to its design and features. So Eve fits my wants and needs precisely. Cost was not my main concern.


#3

I’m a business student but I use most of the Adobe suites such as Photoshop, Lightroom and Premier.
The requirements for Photoshop are as follows:
Intel® Core 2 or AMD Athlon® 64 processor; 2 GHz or faster processor

Microsoft Windows 7 with Service Pack 1, Windows 8.1, or Windows 10

2 GB or more of RAM (8 GB recommended)

2.6 GB or more of available hard-disk space for 32-bit installation; 3.1 GB or more of available hard-disk space for 64-bit installation; additional free space required during installation (cannot install on a volume that uses a case-sensitive file system)

1024 x 768 display (1280x800 recommended) with 16-bit color and 512 MB or more of dedicated VRAM; 2 GB is recommended*OpenGL 2.0-capable system

Internet connection and registration are necessary for required software activation, validation of subscriptions, and access to online services.**

The Eve meets those requirements but I want the best thing for my money. I have looked at the specs and they both look pretty impressive. They are similar; both have pros and cons which is why I am finding it so difficult to decide. I don’t mind spending more money. It’s just whether it’s worth that much. I don’t mind taking risks; I have been told by relatives that support will be difficult to deal with because of the size of the company; but if I get a better product then I don’t mind. (And considering the Eve team do a lot of quality assurance and quality control) it means there’s less likely to be an issue. I would buy both if I could and then decide but I don’t have that privilege.


#4

It’s a tough one. Eve V loses out on performance but gains in battery life.

Realistic, what are you looking for in a laptop? Weight, battery life, performance, tablet form, touch screen, etc. So far, no-one really has made a ‘perfect’ 2-in-1 that covers the majority and it’s almost like each one has it’s own niche.


#5

How urgent do you need it? The V is basically nonexistent until they ship your order, that is if you can order one. If you’re in a hurry you might not want the wait. Performance wise I would expect both to be about the same in burst tasks, with HP doing better in prolonged workloads.


#6

The construction feels really good and it looks nice. However I heard it throttles really hard.
I believe the V will have better screen battery and speakers. I’d say get a V and if you’re really looking for an HP go for their X360s.
Also be aware that HPs have pretty poor quality control so I’d recommend a warranty (and I’d say the same for Eve if they offer one since it is a new company).


#7

Mohammad brought up an excellent point:

I can’t stress enough how much you should get a solid warranty, and be quick to report anything at all that may be wrong with the computer. HP support is usually pretty good, but their quality control is abysmal.


#8

Looking at it. One of the main points with the HP is the lack of thunderbolt 3 (I game and do a lot of graphics work so eGPUs are definitely something I’m interested in).

The battery life doesn’t bother me too much; but I’d say main points are performance, clarity and colour of the display. I want something that gives true colour because I have a passion for photography.

It also seems that there aren’t a lot of interest in the development of accessories for the HP spectre x2…

I have looked at the x360s but I cannot stand 2 in 1s where the keyboard just goes round to the back of the screen.

Out of interest, anyone have any views of the Asus switch 7 black edition?


#9

I was actually recommended the Asus Switch 7 yesterday right here in the Eve community. It’s not released yet, but it looks really good so far. The big, big question is the liquid cooling; will there be thermal throttling like there is with other fanless devices or have they managed to find a construction that can avoid this? It’s expensive, though…

I have a similar problem, since I’m looking for a device that can do some light rendering without requiring an eGPU. I don’t know if the V i7 will be the right choice, but it just looks so damn good and does everything well with the exception of graphics/rendering performance.

The Surface Book 2 looks good as well, but no TB3 and so damn expensive :open_mouth:


#10

HP is very good with their warranty and support. I’ve been on the phone with them and they do follow up. They are highly recommended by ALL PC magazines, and Windows Central. Forgetabout the 360.


#11

Yes HP has great customer support. My brother has the x360, had the omen and my family has owned many HP products. They have issues tho.

Quality control is not good. My brother has had to have multiple Computers replaced due to bad trackpads, screens, the metal bodies being warped, device not working properly, strange fan noises…

Now to the HP Spectre x360 and the x2. I honestly don’t know why anyone would choose the x2 over the x360 when the x360 has a better price, battery life, and performance.
And all the unique 2-in-1 features you can use on the x2 can be done with the x360, since it is a convertible and has Pen support.


#12

With the X2 though, the keyboard is detachable which I really like compared to the x360 which has a keyboard you can’t remove. As I mentioned, I hate folding over keyboards. If you could remove the keyboard then I’d be all for it.

Looking at the Acer switch 7. There’s only one port which I find to be amazing considering how limiting that is for users. Even with a dock, having one USB-c port is a turn off.


#13

Why is it so limiting? You don’t charge it via USB-C, which is why it’s always free, and there’s a USB-A as well.


#14

Quality control has to do with a computers performance out of the box and usually a year longer. Many factors after purchase can affect longevity and reliability. I.E. normal use would not cause a metal body to warp. Fan noises are usually caused by dust, etc. Fans in all computers are notoriously problematic. (No fan in Eve :sunglasses:) All computers fail in time, drive failure, battery failure, keyboard problems. Question is when did it fail and was the warranty honored. Extended warranties are available for portable computers and are probably worth the extra cost given their fragile nature. This is especially true for anybody travelling with their computer. I suspect Eve will have failures in warranty also, hopefully fewer than HP.


#15

Isn’t it the Acer switch 7 black edition? :wink:


#16

You’re right, of course, too many hours of looking at tech devices lately :wink:


#17

:raised_hands:

I think we are misunderstanding each other.

I am saying that my brother had those issues out of the box, and if not, they would occur in less than a week.
And I think they have excellent warranty service. They replaced his laptop multiple times with new ones if they couldn’t fix the issues (they couldn’t). That’s legit!

However having to deal with replacing a laptop every month is extremely inconvenient. Especially considering that we are both students, so we are forced to deal with the issues of an imperfect product until a break comes and then back up all data to a cloud service and HDD and then send out the computer.

100% agree with you here. And if Eve offers one I will buy it in a heartbeat.
My HP of 4 years is out of warranty and had a boot issue with the recent windows 10 update and now possibly a failed HDD and I am ‘puter-less until I get my V. God willing, soon.


#18

Purchase an external drive for backup and use back-up software such as Macruim. Cloud backup is way too slow and it doesn’t do a good job saving the OS and preferences if at all. If you can open your computer it’s very easy to replace the HDD with an SSD. I’ve done several for friends and family with no problems. Then a system/data restore from Macrium. Up and running within 2 hours at most.


#19

Hi,
are there comparisons available in regard of the CPU performance? Since the test of notebookcheck I’m confused if I should get any V. I’m a CS student and mostly use IntelliJ and PyCharm for programming. Do you think the m3 model can handle this for the next 2 years? I’m not considering the i5 model, because after notebookcheck I don’t see the performance/price ratio to be good enough.


#20

Do a forum search for this topic.