Eve with ChromeOS?


#1

Am I the only one who thinks that this would be an amazing product? If the Eve had ChromeOS I would have purchased 5 for my whole team at work. We’ve moved to ChromeOS and so I can’t use Windows anymore, but the Eve seems purpose built for ChromeOS!


#2

Chrome OS-only would probably be a suicide move IMO, but dual-boot capability is something worth looking into.

That being said, is there really an advantage of using Chrome OS over Linux/Windows/macOS running Chrome browser? I mean, Chrome OS itself is based on Gentoo Linux, I don’t think its as revolutionary as what Google wants you to believe.


#3

Nothing stops you from installing ChromeOS on the V. Everything works except for thunderbolt (And display calibration), at least it did when I tried it by booting from an external USB drive around a year ago.

If EVE where to offer a dualboot option It would have to be only after working out all the quinkson the current device. sicne giving support to more OSes will increase the number of problems down the road.


#4

Personally I think that rather than aiming for ChromeOS support (which, as I understand, is going to be replaced by FuchsiaOS anyway) it would make more sense to do something along the lines of what Dell does, which is provide support for Linux (only Ubuntu unfortunately) directly from the manufacturer, hence getting the best possible drivers and updates, while not voiding your warranty the second you stop using Windows.
Also, considering the importance of the community to Eve and their development, Linux would be a natural fit, since, being open source, everyone can make their contribution and propose new bits of code they tested on their own device to be vetted by the maintainers.

In any case I agree that dual booting would be the most versatile solution.


#5

One selling point for ChromeOS would probably the fact that it can run Android apps. While there have been efforts by the open-source community to achieve the same, Anbox for example still has a long road ahead.


#6

What he said.
Nothing much more to say here but make a gag face while pronouncing “CHROME OS”
:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:


#7

I am also thinking the possibility of ChromeOS, but need to get in touch with Google first
Don’t hesitate to share the contact if you have :grin:


#8

This has been ported to Chrome browser on other platforms too. I still don’t see the value in Chrome OS compared to simply running Chrome on top of Linux or any other OS.

ARChon runtime lets you run unlimited number of Android APKs created with chromeos-apk on Chrome OS and across any desktop platform that supports Chrome.

Also keep in mind that the Android-on-Chrome OS experience itself has been sub-par so far. Its not something that’s really usable for anything more than occasional use, plus it robs some precious battery life.


#9

Out of curiosity, did you try the link that you posted? The last update to that repo was 5 years ago and it doesn’t seem to even be compatible with the latest versions of Chrome.

I think there’s still plenty good with ChromeOS–between the ease of use, the multiple use cases it provides, the security, the automatic updates, the lack of drivers, the fact that it can run well on tons of different hardware configurations. And while the Android compatibility definitely has its share of problems and bugs, a lot of the issues just stem from a lot of Android apps not scaling to large, high-res displays. Apps that do scale well, like the recently released Stardew Valley, Amazon Kindle, Playstation Video, Squid, emulators, etc. work really well. Plus switching between Android apps, Chrome, and Linux apps like Visual Studio Code while running a Docker container on my Chromebook is honestly a really nice experience.

While I wouldn’t want to use ChromeOS as an only device–I have a Surface Pro, 2 Macbooks (personal and work), and 2 iPads (personal and work) that I switch between in addition to a ChromeOS tablet–I think it has a ton of potential, especially with its dominance of the education market in the US.


#10

the lack of drivers, the fact that it can run well on tons of different hardware configurations

Dont they use Linux drivers like all the other Linux distros out there? Correct me if Im wrong

I dont see Chrome OS really runs on a different hardware configs, most Chromebooks have a Windows equivalent, and if you want to build a dual-boot device, which I think is the only chance you can get Chrome OS on an Eve product, then the hardware must be compatible with Windows anyway.

a lot of the issues just stem from a lot of Android apps not scaling to large, high-res displays.

Android tablet died precisely because of this, where most of the tablet apps were simply just stretched phone apps, unlike their iPad counterparts. What makes you think it will be different this time around?

I think it has a ton of potential, especially with its dominance of the education market in the US.

You do realize the “potential” so far is Google $$$, right?

The education market chose Chromebooks simply because theyre cheaper, and the consumer market --where people get to choose for themselves-- have largely rejected it.

Plus switching between Android apps, Chrome, and Linux apps like Visual Studio Code while running a Docker container on my Chromebook is honestly a really nice experience.

This does sound nice, although I am personally still not convinced with the Android for the reason above (plus you probably have an Android phone anyway), and the rest is possible on Linux/Windows.

I have a Surface Pro, 2 Macbooks (personal and work), and 2 iPads (personal and work)

weird flex but ok


#11

You’re right about the drivers, but the OS handles updating drivers for the user. I don’t know how most Linux distros handle that, but I know that hasn’t always been consistent for me on other OS’s. And the hardware configs includes ARM processors and lower tiered hardware since it runs well at even 2GB of RAM. Both of which Windows isn’t great at.

I didn’t say it’d necessarily be different, just that the Android-on-Chrome OS experience isn’t replicated on the Chrome browser on other platforms like you had mentioned, and it’s definitely usable. Even with the issues, there’s still plenty of apps that work really well.

And the reason for that is because of what ChromeOS was (glorified browser) and where it is right now (still going through growing pains). But between the issues that Apple has had with the recent Macbooks, Windows still being a pretty terrible tablet experience, and with Google’s trying to position it for web and mobile development (they’ve gone into detail about it in recent conferences), it still has a lot of room for growth imo.

Maybe it’s the idea of not having to use emulators or external devices for testing while developing, but it makes web and mobile development a lot easier. That’s definitely not something Linux or Windows can do.

If we’re just talking about 2-in-1’s or convertibles, I don’t know of any Linux distros that support touch-only well and Window’s poor tablet implementation makes neither of those great choices if you want to use them as tablets as well as laptops. I meant to point out that between my using a Surface Pro, Macbook + iPad, and a Chromebook, Chrome OS has been a much nicer experience than the Surface Pro for a laptop + tablet combo. While still nowhere near as nice as the Macbook + iPad combo, I think it’s a lot closer to it than Windows is right now.


#12

That’s one thing I’ve found to be problematic with the V. Some programs just don’t scale well without registry edits. IE- Adobe CS5 programs. Never had a problem with them on desktops or laptops…even in a Windows VM on a MBP.


#13

You probably already know this, but CS5 is nearly a decade old at this point, long before Windows 8 was even a thing (not even as a beta). Adobe CC 2018 and 2019 do scale well within both Windows and Mac.

That being said, its something that Chrome OS couldn’t even run.

While I completely agree on this, I don’t see Chrome OS to be any better now or within the near future. The Pixel Slate software has been lambasted by pretty much any reviewers, including those from Android/Google enthusiasts for its sluggish performance, glitchy graphics, and inflexibility of window management, and thats running on Intel Core architecture, which is much more powerful than the ARM hardware you mentioned earlier.


#14

Absolutely, but I own CS5 and it does everything I need. Just using it as an example of an experience with Windows where I’ve found it not that great on a tablet. There’s plenty of other little things that I find lacking in the Window’s tablet experience but that’s the only specific program that sticks out in my mind right now. I would not expext them to run on ChromeOS.