Eve V vs. Competition!


#330

it looks like it has better specifications for in all areas that it mentions. the one area that hp doesn’t talk about is the speaker, but the cameras, weight, storage, screen covering and writing technology(Wacom) are arguably better, while the processor and other parts are similar.


#331

This. It won’t be fanless. For the good, and the bad.

There is another area hp has not yet talked about. It’s the price. The specs looks very very nice, let’s see official prices. This Italian notebook review site, anticipates 1099 Euro + VAT (add around 20%) for the base model (Intel Core i3-7100U?) in the EMEA market. Thas would be arguably worse than Eve-V, I think.


#332

Windows Central made an error, it’s 1012 not 1020 : HP Elite x2 1012 G2

Better Specs in bold.

Eve V (What I know) :

  • 290 x 205 x 8.9/ 14.6mm
  • IPS 12.3" CG3 IGZO
  • 2736 x 1824
  • anti reflective coating
  • Brightness : 450 nits
  • Contrast : 1400:1
  • m3, i5Y, i7Y
  • RAM : 8 / 16 GB
  • Drive : 128 / 256 / 512 GB
  • 900 / 1220 gr
  • 2 USB-A, 2 USB-C (1 thunderbolt 3)
  • Camera : front 2MP, rear 5MP
  • Quad 1W speakers
  • Bluetooth 4.2
  • 48Wh
  • Backlit Keyboard with Bluetooth
  • Pen : N-Trig 1024
  • Windows Hello : Fingerprint reader
  • Serviceability : No
  • Price : $??? but I guess better

Hp Elite X2 1012 G2 (What I know)

  • 300 x 213 x 7.6/13.5 mm
  • IPS 12,3" CG4 ???
  • Apparently no anti reflective coating
  • Brightness : 340 or 450 nits (depending on the source)
  • Contrast : ???
  • i3U, i5U, i7U
  • RAM : 4 / 8 / 16 GB
  • Drive : 128GB - 1TB
  • 803 / 1157 gr
  • 1 USB-A, 1 USB-C (thunderbolt 3)
  • Camera : front 5MP, rear 8MP
  • Dual speakers (front facing)
  • Bluetooth 4.2
  • Backlit Keyboard, no Bluetooth
  • 47Wh
  • Pen : Wacom AES 2048
  • Windows Hello : IR Camera
  • Serviceability : Yes
  • Price : Starting $1100 (i3 / 128 GB / 4GB :grimacing: )

Edit :

  • Added info : corning glass 3 and 900gr on the Eve V
  • HP entry model config and price confirmed
  • Depending on the source the brightness of the HP is either 340 or 450 nits

Sources :


HP announces next generation HP Elite x2
#333

The latest news on the weight of V is 840…but some of the prototypes were >900.

We have corning glass 3


#334

So the HP is thinner, lighter, and yet it is serviceable?

Im super impressed

The early versions without heatpipe was 840g, later revisions are 900g. I think the final version will be 900g


#335

It’s got a pretty cool lookin AD as well


#336

The website says that 512 GB is the maximum storage capacity, and it mentions SATA as well as NVMe drives, so expect the base model to come with a slower SATA drive.
We’ve got twice as many ports.
We’ve barely manage to edge them out on battery capacity.
We’ve got the anti-reflective coating, better brightness and contrast levels , with the same resolution though.
We’ve got quad speakers and an amazing amp for the headphone jack, compared to their dual speaker setup.
We’ve got a wireless Alcantara keyboard with multicolor backlighting.
The final nail on the coffin, it’s base price is 1100$ and will probably have the i3 processor with a SATA drive. The fingerprint sensor and keyboard are mentioned as “optional”, which means they may not be provided with the device…
True, it gets a lot right, but it’s price leaves it dead in the water, atleast for most people I know…


HP announces next generation HP Elite x2
#337

Thanks for the compact comparison! :+1:
(Small typo on the ROM sizes, it’s GB, not MB ;))


Are you sure about the 4GB RAM? I would expect them to finally ditch the 4GB RAM on the base variant at this point… I can’t believe HP and every other major manufacturer still offer their base model with 4Gb of RAM on $1000+ high end computers when 8GB RAM is below $50 for a manufacturer. So basically, if you want this tablet with 8GB RAM, you will have to resort to next tier and spend at least $1300+ (I guess?) or “service” it at day 1 (invalidating your guarantee, I’m guessing?).
That (and price, of course) would be quite a showstopper when comparing the entry level offerings (HP Elite x2 1012 G2 - i3 vs Eve-V m3)…

EDIT: PcWorld confirms this:
(link) The base $1,099 Elite x2 in the United States will have the Core i3 CPU, 4GB of LPDDR3-1866 SDRAM, and 128GB M.2 SATA SSD.
Not impressed at all by the RAM.


#338

:joy: :joy: corrected

Yes 4GB the entry model.
Many specs in the HP website : https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c05415563


#339

https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c05415563#AbT4 :

128 GB SATA-3 SS value solid state drive
256 GB 2280 M2 PCIe-3x4 solid state NVMe TLC
256 GB 2280 M2 SATA-3 self-encrypted OPAL 2 TLC
256 GB 2280 PCIe NVMe Value
360 GB 2280 PCIe-3x4 NVMe TLC
512 GB 2280 M2 PCIe-3x4 solid state NVMe TLC
512 GB 2280 PCIe NVMe Value
512 GB 2280 M2 SATA-3 Three Layer Cell Federal Information Processing Standard (FIPS 140.2 available via CIS only)
1024 GB 2280 PCIe-3x4 NVMe TLC


#340

Ah, WindowsCentral has erred.
No worries.


#341

Twice as many ports for the V and the price makes it almost a no brainer for most people :relaxed:, but serviceability would have been nice for the V :slight_smile:

A case can be made for front facing speakers, but without a review it’s impossible to compare.


#342

Unfortunately it appears that I do not. However, it looked similar to what is seen on this iPhone photo (example):


#343

And here comes a new generation of HP Elite x2 1012 G2 again with those HUGE ugly bezels. If it is anything like HP Elite x2 1012 G1 then it is rather a device that I might accept (if forced) as an office machine but would never buy with my own $$$$, as it just doesn’t feel refined like SP4 or V [quote=“pauliunas, post:329, topic:2290, full:true”]
Battery capacity by itself means nothing… They use a different class of processors…
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Could not agree more. Judging from other recent HP products with 7th generation U CPUs I’ve seen 7-8h light/moderate use from HP Spectre x360 13" with 59WH battery and that was with 1080P screen @200-250 lm brightness.


#344

Somewhere in my memory says that when the most advanced most lovable computer you bought after comparing prices, specs and so on arrives at your doorstep, you`ll see a better device announced roughly within a week.
Our V (because off ‘rightful’ delays) is more and more entering this stage.
No problem though because the V specs are ok for the use we bought it for.
And, as thay say in Holland: the cow is always convinced that the grass at the other side of the fence is much greener.
A note of hope: we are no cows :joy:


#345

I think this is the older edition/version. I believe the new version uses the 7th edition chip and goes up to 16GB of ram.


#346

I don’t understand what you mean. The older version was the HP Elite X2 1012 G1 and this is the HP Elite X2 1012 G2. And yes it’s a 7th generation CPU, and RAM goes from 4GB to 16GB, I never said otherwise.


#347

It’s impressive to see that the V is able to keep its head high among the competition despite the delays.
What more proof does one need to show that companies still haven’t figured out what people want?


#348

They have, they just can’t resist overpricing things :wink:


#349

@gunnmlo99 specs for the HP Elite x2 1012 G2:


They claim a brightness of 450 nits.