I don't know if that's what Eve is doing or what I am proposing. Maybe something about being affordable without big compromises, while delivering what community - customers - want, maybe that would be closer?
Well, you propose here at least two things:
1) laptop (for clarity sake let's leave the hinge problem outside this post) that is serviceable - meaning user can change few hardware parts.
2) laptop where user can replace a battery.
Now, there's overlap here and I know about it. If you have the first, you probably have the second - but not the other way around.
So, three... no, four things. I'll try to be brief.
- Such user-friendliness is good to have. However, it's exactly "good to have" and not "necessary" to the experience. Because such modularity would mean compromises and additional mechanisms in place that would support it. Because it would need much more than just support from Eve side. You would have to find hardware that would fit. When EveL is released - that, potentially, would not be a problem. Along the road, though, when user finally wants to change something - should we say, few years? - it may happen that the parts are because of x no longer compatible.
- Percent of people that would actually want to deal with all the theoretical hassle of changing something on the hardware level is silly low. Yes, they are vocal, yes, they exist - no, it's not 90% or 50%. It's lower. Still, to support that dream, compromises would have to be made and just for very particular set of users that possibly along the road will change something.
- Battery being replaceable is ultra cool, in theory. It not only mean you can change your battery when it's dead from all the cycles, but also when you are on the go and simply do not have the opportunity to recharge.
Obvious downsides are compromises needed to be done to design replacable battery and fact, that when your battery will die, years in the future, you may probably think about new laptop either way. Also, the availability of the batteries itself - are batteries standardized?
- The aesthetics. Because it may be less sleek than otherwise, it will gather less potential customers. That may seem silly, but as we now even small details - "oops" button, for example - may be problematic. It's a valid opinion, obviously, and being chunky/looking like a hand-made tank is a possibility, but in the art of balance I would guess replaceable battery would be interesting, even if personally I don't see myself replacing the battery.
All that being said - maybe Eve will want and try to grab all the tinkerers and promote this specific angle heavily. I don't know. : )
You don't use keyboard shortcuts?
I visited shop with hardware today and they had Lenovo Yoga 900 on display. It's very visible how much effort went into the hinge design. It's impressive, like a timepiece. I can't help wondering what we could get from Eve considering similar design limitation.
You know, after using V trackpad I don't think we have to worry. : )
I don't think this can be done. Clear goals are super important on every step of complicated projects and throwing everything and a kitchen sink will result in something, if I could guess, too complex for its own good, too expensive and problematic.
Is it? Wasn't it brought up in one post?
I honestly would see 360 hinge before the user serviceability, tbh.
I can honestly say that many things about MBP would be great, even as a "compromise" : )
Feature creep is characteristic of a project, not use case. Obviously, we could find users of every possible combination of features. Hell, I would probably use 360 if we had one.
But with every feature and idea comes other that are needed for it to work in the first place, along with "nice to have" things that complicate already complex and problematic whole.
360 is like that. Let's have 360 hinge, touchscreen, pen support, nice, slim bezels... and suddenly we have:
- hinge design that went from "simple" to "complex, expensive and most likely custom"
- touchscreen design that's compatible with pen support
- bezels, that should be slim when using it as a laptop and wider for tablet use.
And probably 10 things that I don't know about but are still super important when delivering quality product. Lag. Palm rejection. Color reproduction. Screen uniformity. Screen resistance etc.
I don't think 360 hinge is a useless feature and I don't recall even writing that. It does have its use cases and users that will kill for one. But there's perspective of one feature and perspective of the whole project - and features get cut all the time. To fit into the budget, money and time wise. To fit into design resources. To fit into manufacturing capabilities. You start with something beautiful and then you cut the fat away, leaving scars. Or you plan from the start with clear picture in mind of what you want to accomplish. Maybe even start small. Have a solid foundation.
More than anything I wanted opinions on the general idea of a laptop for factor for Eve next product. : )
A matter of availability. Considering Eve limited budgets of all kind, custom panel is probably out of the question. We are limited, then, to what's possible to get. Because of that I suppose 16:9 would be the easiest, while still having a satisfying range of quality/performance/cost ratios.
We agree here! It could be a beauty.