Do you need full Windows/Linux on your smartphone? (Discussion about smartphone operating systems)


#1

Hi there,
@pauliunas, @Patrick_Hermawan, @andybotty and me had a discussion about what operating system “our” future smartphone should have.

I just wanted to know what other people think about this topic and i didn´t want to spam this thread with off topic discussions.

I thought it would be a great idea to create a poll for this:

What operating system would you like to have on your future smartphone?

  • Android
  • Windows 10 Mobile
  • Full Windows
  • Full Linux
  • multipls OS (discuss below)
  • Other OS (discuss below)

0 voters

Don´t forget to discuss the topic below :wink:

Have a great day :slight_smile:


#2

Better to be able to dualboot. But if not possible: Android, as vanilla as posible. without any of the anexed services from google and the like.


#3

Android, as its currently the only possible OS. Win10 on phones is dead and long gone. Canonical has killed UIbuntu Phone development.

Well there is Sailfish, but it sucks anyways


#4

The whole point about “full Windows” is the ability to install whatever you want. Just like on Eve V. So you can have Windows, Android, Linux, pretty much everything apart from Windows Phone (unless Microsoft allows it) and apple stuff.


#5

i like the idea of installing everything you want, but how do you want to handle this? You´ll need mobile hardware that supports multiple OS and it´s not expedient to run full Windows on your smartphone, because you will not be able to work efficiently on the go.

I like the idea of Windows 10 Mobile + Continuum most, because it TRIES to combine both worlds.


#6

Why not finally combine them? Just make a dual boot with Windows and Android :slight_smile: Or run full Windows with some telephony applications :slight_smile:

Hardware doesn’t need to “support” operating systems. The operating systems need to support it. So all we need is some widely supported software. Intel Atom is a good start, as it uses x86 instruction set. And then we need unlocked UEFI, as well as some parts commonly found in small tablets. Those will have drivers for most OS.

Put in short, the same way as tablets handle it. Just take an 8" tablet and minimize it into a smartphone. Smaller screen consumes less power, so battery can be smaller too, Cannonlake is around the corner so we will be able to fit that processing power into a smaller body… I think it’s totally possible to squeeze it into 5.5" form factor while trading off some thickness (but not too much).


#7

That´s what i meant :blush:


#8

That the point, operating systems are not supporting it. However the good point is, that they are beginning to support it.
Full Windows on a smartphone is not feasible at the moment, maybe in 1-2 years when operating systems improve.


#9

I don’t know how far SailfishOS is in development, but it should be a good alternative to buggy Android and Windows.


#10

dunno about the far part but it isn’t really an option if you need something like apps. Android apps are mostly shit on current Sailfish devices (havent had a chance to test the new Sony hardware with Sailfish thouhg).

It just wont be a real option from a business point of view


#11

Tell me, which operating system doesn’t support Intel Atom? :slight_smile: I don’t know any. OK, apple stuff might not work but that’s not the point. Windows Phone - maybe, they were working on it.

@Tirigon, my android is not buggy :slight_smile:


#12

I am talking more about supporting small hardware in general. I should better say being optimized for small screens etc.


#13

That’s (obviously without the 10) been told since I bought my first Windows Phone 7.
And that was way back in 2010.


#14

Yeah, it was true then and it is true now with even stronger emphasis


#15

Yeah, still the best (dead) mobile OS (in my view).
And yes, I also own iOS and Android devices.


#16

Was there a day when it wasn’t… well… dead? :stuck_out_tongue: It never really came to life, so technically it’s always dead.

Don’t worry, Windows 10 (the real one, not Windows Phone) is very well optimized for small screens. I tried setting DPI scaling to the maximum on my 11" FullHD tablet (I think it was 300%) and using that from my smartphone. I was planning to use Teamviewer for that, but I don’t remember really if I actually used it or if I just sent some screenshots to my 5" phone and tried how it feels. Either way, it’s really great. Start menu is a charm, navigation buttons (start, back, search) were a bit small but in later builds the spacing was improved…
So really the only concern is battery life and that’s what’s holding us back and out of our control…

I do like the OS, but it has no apps that I need so it’s quite useless. It’s like having a really great luxury car but no fuel for it.


#17

You wrote this several times before.
I’m interested how this looked. Do you have any picutres of that screen?
It’s not that I don’t trust you. I’m just realy interested in how it looks.

So true.

Without the app-gap it would nearly be perfect.
I don’t have much apps that I need always on the go and are not on W10P. At home I can use my other devices.
All 3 OSs have theirs pros and cons. That’s why I try to avoid OS bashing threads and always write something like “in my view”.


#18

I just dont like the idea of using a Desktop operating system for my smartphone. As is already said: It will be great and feasible in the future as soon as continuum improves. But at the moment it doesnt make any sense.


#19

How do you imagine that? I think the perfect improvement for continuum would be running actual desktop apps, natively :slight_smile: @andybotty I can’t find any screenshots from then (I had quite a big bunch of them), but I’ll take new ones when I have some free time :slight_smile:


#20

Thats right, and thats what i am waiting for :slight_smile: However you said, that Windows is a good mobile operating system, did you? And that´s not true.