A roll-up of possible future projects


#1

Hey guys,
So I thought it would be useful to have an “idea bank” where we could store possible ideas for future projects. So if you guys post your ideas here, I will try to add them all here, no matter if they’re all crazy or impossible.
So, here are the ideas so far. Some of them I took from other topics, some I thought of myself:

A gaming desktop computer:
We could make a special case and accessories for it to make it stand out. Or even bundle peripherals together.
Pros:
Possibly much lower price than what you can find on the market
Cool features
Easier to obtain than building it yourself, and no need to buy any extra peripherals (?)
Cons:
Difficult to meet everyone’s needs
Current market proposals, as well as building one yourself, offers a more “personal” approach

Eve Phone:
A Windows 10 phone that woukd rival the rumored Surface Phone, or replace it, if it doesn’t appear at all. Here’s a wonderful thread discussing it:
http://eve.community/t/an-amazing-eve-phone/512
An awesome addition would be a x86 processor with full win32 app support. Basically the full Windows 10 OS with the Start Menu, Action center and stuff like that taken from Mobile.
However, it would be hard to choose such a capable CPU. Atoms are not fast enough, Core M would heat up rather quickly. Let’s see what Kaby Lake brings us?
Pros:
Unrivaled performance in Windows Phone market
Could replace a netbook with proper accessories
High productivity (pen support, Continuum)
Cons:
Limited choice of x86 processors (could also go for ARM)
Windows Phone’s lacking app market
Running desktop apps would require Microsoft’s help with software; it’s inefficient on small screens

PC accessory bundles:
This way we could hand-pick the best accessories in the market, bundle them together and sell to PC owners.
Pros:
Would probably save you from the need to choose one of those thousands of products. It would be hand-picked by the community
Lower price?
Very suitable for new PC owners
Cons:
New PC owners often don’t know yet if they’re really serious about this :wink:
Existing owners mostly already have bought some expensive peripherals that are good for them

A Phabtop:
This one is from me. Since Intel lately has been improving their CPU scalability, it would become possible to push the concept of Convertible, or 2-in-1 PC. Or expand the Phablet concept, depends from which side you look at it. Let’s start by Microsoft Surface Book as an example. Now imagine a hole in the tablet part of it, where you could plug in the Eve Phone (or Surface Phine :D). Probably on the top, so that you could use the phone’s camera. Or its screen, for notifications and stuff while your tablet is sleeping. The idea here is to create a fluent experience across a smartphone, a tablet and a laptop. Just like Surface Pro, the kegboard would include a GPU and a bigger battery, the tablet would have a bigger screen, better front camera (video calls) and an SSD for, you know, doing desktop work. Making it run off the phone’s battery would make it much thinner. At least the sides of it, like Crapple’s design :wink: The problem is, of course, the processor. Maybe a Core M would be good for phone at TDP-low setting and for tablet at TDP-high, but no way would it satisfy the laptop with a GPU, where users are expected to do much heavier work, to actually use the GPU. A solution to this would be including a Core i processor in the tablet part, but this kind of discourages the user from making use of the “phablet” scalability, as the tablet could already boot without the phone. And if using Core M, there would be a problem of transferring the heat from the phone to the tablet (at TDP-high setting)
Pros:
“Continuum” all the way from a smartphone to (almost) a desktop PC (due to the GPU)
All applies from Eve Phone
Cons:
Again, a limited choice of phone apps
Limited by current technology, but let’s see what Intel has to offer with upcoming CPU’s
A very high price (not so high if you add up what you would nornally pay for 3 separate devices - it’s just like with convertibles, which are more expensive than “normal” laptops)

A high-performance 2-in-1:
We already have some, such as Microsoft’s Surface family (way too expensive) or 360 laptops like Lenovo Thinkpad Yoga 15, but those are clunky and you can’t remove the keyboard. What I would rather want to see is a tablet with Intel’s latest i5/i7, and a detachable keyboard. So that I can use it as a tablet when I want to, and I don’t need to lug that keyboard around. The keyboard could also include a GPU, if that’s possible in humanly price. This is something similar to Pyramid Flipper, but instead of being “tablet-first” or “laptop-first”, it would be the best of both worlds. Ultra-portable, ultra-powerful. Probably very similar to the Surface Book, but without its bullshit price tag, weird hinge and bullshit battery life :wink:
Pros:
Best of both worlds: both portable and can do heavy-duty work
Much more realistic than Phabtop :blush:
Cons:
Still wouldn’t replace your desktop. Or your phone.
Maybe expensive. The only comparable product is Surface Book, which costs around $2000 with the GPU…

Here’s another one: A fully upgradeable laptop. Back in the day, in “workstations” such as IBM’s Thinkpads, you could replace pretty much everything. Nowadays, most laptops have “unibody” designs, and even after taking them apart, the only thing you can remove is often the storage drive. Even RAM is soldered directly on the motherboard! Yeah, there are still some laptops in which you can remove the GPU, even more with replaceable RAM. But does this satisfy you? I say no! Let’s have a laptop with user-replaceable CPU, easily accessible battery without any screws, just like in the good old days. You’ll say, why remove the processor if newer ones will use a different socket? Well, you can still replace an i3 with an i7 if/when your needs increase. And if the laptop is truly modular, we can ask Eve to produce different motherboards in the future :wink: or a whole new body with a motherboard, where we would put our own HDD, GPU, RAM, battery, CPU… However, there is a big BUTT in the way. It’s quite hard to obtain new laptop processors, as there is currently no demand for them, being so hard to replace.
Pros:
Modular and future-proof design
Applicable to a wide variety of people, because they could buy their own components for it
Cons:
On the other hand, only a handful of people might be willing to disassemble their laptop. There is no laptop builders community as big as desktop builders :slight_smile:
Hard to obtain some replacement parts, as they usually aren’t replaceable
Would result in a quite bulky device due to the space requirements of user-serviceable sockets

So, that’s it for now, but I will continue posting others’ ideas here and try to keep it organized. Maybe when the time comes, we can take this thread and make a vote out of it? :slight_smile:


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#2

I remeber that Samsung holds patent for “phabtop”, so we should be careful with this.
I think that we should maybe add VR headset, but I think such small company can’t do anything here without popular API, I haven’t heard of anything besides LiquidVR (AMD) and I don’t know if it’s actually an API (that can make any software using LiquidVR run on headset supporting LiquidVR)
We really need some VR standard to make it available widely…


#3

Actually, that’s a good idea! But the API is not the biggest problem I see here. I think it’s much more difficult to make the eyestrain and motion sickness aspects bearable. Companies like HTC are investing a fortune into research on this… As for the API, I think SteamVR is pretty much ready to be used, isn’t it? We just need a very high density screen and motion controls.
Oh, and I didn’t know about their patent… But I’m pretty sure that if Eve decides to make one, they will call it something more original than just Phabtop :wink:
Also, I don’t know if you would really want to have a device called Phabtop… You know, phabtop -> phaptop -> f… I think I won’t go further…


#4

I meant not the word, but concept, although their concept looks weird


#5

Oh, well, actually they have no right to copyright something so abstract :wink: so it’s pretty easy to go around their copyright by just placing the phone in a different place, for example. That’s not a big problem. Big guys like Samsung tend to copyright very obvious things, but they never sue anyone about them. Well, maybe Apple does ;D Also, I’m pretty sure Pyramid Flipper has something to do with one of Microsoft’s patents about Surface Pro, but I’m just as sure that they won’t do anything about that. I think they mostly use this kind of copyright for marketing purposes. That for sure attracts a lot of attention from some news sites. It’s just like those “accidental” leaks about upcoming devices. They do that on purpose to create hype about their product.


#6

I got another idea idea: let’s finally make good e-reader with Organic (plastic) screen.
I recently raged a bit that Kindle Oasis looks almost like my current e-reader (Wexler Flex One), features Wi-Fi, gyroscope, touchscreen, costs 3 times more, but still features glass screen
BTW, I bouth mine 3-4 years ago


#7

Have you tried a Pocketbook? I own the cheapest model, PB Classic New 613, and it seems like it’s made of plastic, I’m not sure. The back of the eink panel is clearly glass, but it’s advertised as anti-glare, and it does a pretty good job there. The front looks like plastic to me. What I would like to see, though, is a device without DRM, WiFi, gyroscopes and all that bullsh** that makes us pay more than we want. Just a simple ereader for $50, I think it’s totally possible…


#8

I mean screen COMPLETELY made of plastic
Search for Wexler Flex ONE and you will understand what I mean, it’s nearly impossible to break (sometimes I drop it on purpose)
PS gyroscope is actually quite convenient way to change orientation, although that’s something you don’t do very often
PPS found the name of the screen - it’s now named E-ink mobius http://www.eink.com/display_products_mobius.html (weird thing is that 6" isn’t listed, while initially (made by LG, BTW) it was 6"… oh wait, they were just listing smallest and biggest ones)


#9

Ah, well that’s interrsting. But these products don’t last long, for some purpose. I might sound like a conspiracy theorist, but I suspect the big guys here, slowing the development on purpose


#10

Probably those guys are E-ink technologies themselves


#11

Yeah. Just look at the current ereaders: pretty much all of them are using the same 5/6/9" panels made by E Ink themselves. There’s no competition here, so IMO they either bribe the other guys, or “deal with them” in other ways. On the other hand, the prices that the others put on their products are usually sky high…


#12

I basically want a screen with Carta’s quality, but based on Mobius technology
Anyway, I would like to see E-reader that looks like Kindle Oasis/Wexler.Flex ONE, uses screen with plastic base, have touchscreen, maybe WiFi, backlight, 1GHz processor (it seems pretty common), nice refreshrate (Sony’s Mobius-based 13.3" tablet’s looks good enough), decent RAM (512 MB seems common), decent battery life (1 day of INTENSE reading is minimum for me). on the ROM side, even 1-2GB for books will be more than enough for me, but such small storages probably don’t even being produced anymore.
I would like to see full FB2, doc, djvu, pdf support (I use them a lot), also support for viewing pictures separetely (it can be really convinient at moments)


#13

I think we should make an acessory that is solely focused in being a case with an e-ink reader (for the Pyramid Flipper) @TAImatem


#14

I ought to disagree with one thing: a good eReader should focus on what it’s good at. A touchscreen is OK as a better user interface than buttons, but features like WiFi, IMO are unnecessary and only decrease battery life and increase the price. But the whole idea is good - and if we decide to make it, we will figure it out with polls, like we do with PF.
@Artur I’m not sure if it would be better than a standalone device, as it would be limited by the battery life of PF, and also add the weight of it. Furthermore, the only potential buyers would be owners of PF, which is a huge limitation in terms of sales quantity and production cost


#15

I agree with you. I said that because I thought people wanted the two sides of the coin :wink: @pauliunas


#16

I’d like to add another idea originated in another thread - a Thunderbolt3 to PCIe adapter. This way we could turn the Pyramid Flipper into a gaming rig or a music production machine. Basically, anything that a desktop computer can do. Of course, still limited by the Core M. There are already such devices on the market, but their prices range from $500 all the way up to $1000, while the true manufacturing cost (in our estimations) should be lower than $50. If done the right way, this could become a really strong competitor to the likes of Razer Blade Stealth, and probably sell even better than the Pyramid Flipper.
I will add this and other new ideas to the OP later today or tomorrow.


#17

There’s one that costs 300$, although it is not technically TB3 to PCIe, it’s just TB3 to GPU. Search Acer graphics dock - this is actually quite nice idea (especially if it will be with next-gen finfet graphics(like polaris 11))
It’s even possible to make it magnetically attachable to the back of devices like PF and make it work like additional cooling :wink: (it won’t be as convenient with lot of cables sticking out, but will be extremely portable)


#18

It’s 300€ by the way, and it comes with a GTX 960M, which cannot be replaced. The main plus point of the Razer Core is that you can switch graphics cards to your hearts’ content. When the next generation of Pascal and Polaris cards release, you can just plug it into the Razer Core and enjoy! If we can make a Razer Core alternative with less ports, for 100$ , it will be a massive hit, as all thunderbolt 3 devices could use it, not only the PF.
I have a feeling you are talking about another dock. Link please :slight_smile:


#19

But it would be 100$ with less ports (why?) and just like a “box” where you would put your graphics card of choice? Isn’t that a tad expensive (comparing to the Razer Core it isn’t obviously)? I don’t know the price but I think we can make it much more affordable :wink: Shouldn’t be that hard to do :smiley:


#20

Acer graphics dock with 960m was exactly the one I was talking about.
What I meant, however, is why can’t we take this idea and make similar one as portable graphics enchantment, maybe even make it the way that it would be possible to use PF (or whatever it will be used with) as power source when needed (I doubt that it will last longer than 1.5 hour), and charge PF (owiwbuw) through the dock, when it plugged in power socket.
I think that it will be feasible if PF will become popular :wink: